Welcome to the After-On Podcast. I'm your host, Rob Reed.

And this is a series of conversations with thinkers, founders, and scientists.

Take a little time and stretch out because these talks are unhurry and meant to bring you

to a top percentile understanding of something important.

Also, whether you're ready to start up or ideas, a techie or a lit major, take your time,

engage your mind, and you'll be glad you did it.

Especially this week when we'll be talking to, well, me.

In a sense, as well as one, John Hodgman.

But first, happy Thanksgiving to the roughly 60% of you who are listening from the United

States and for those tuning in from the 143 other countries where this podcast is downloaded

a word of explanation.

It's something of a secular holiday we care in New York City and points beyond.

Technically only Thursday is a holiday, but most Americans take Friday off as well,

and a high percentage start taking four hour lunches from which they come back quite

disinclined to work, starting yesterday, continuing today, often in a completely catastrophic

lunch tomorrow.

The customs of my ancestors are therefore inconsistent with making one of my normal podcast

episodes which can easily take up over 50 hours, believe it or not.

So instead, I'm doing something a bit different this week.

It turns out I have access to over 30 hours of beautifully produced audio programming

which I wrote and casted.

These are the audiobooks of my two novels.

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