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🗓️ 18 November 2022
⏱️ 58 minutes
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome back to the Battleground Ukraine podcast with me, Patrick Bishop and Saul David. |
0:19.6 | The big excitement as we've been recording this, has been the |
0:22.7 | missile strike in eastern Poland right next to the border with Ukraine. For a moment, it seemed |
0:27.7 | like a vital threshold had been crossed that a NATO country had been attacked by Russia, |
0:32.8 | thus triggering Article 5 of the NATO treaty, which says that an attack on one is an attack on |
0:39.1 | all, and thus paving the way for a potential huge escalation of the war. Well, we can all breathe |
0:46.4 | again now. It seems that the storm has passed. The Polish president, Andre Duda, has said that |
0:52.7 | it was probably not a Russian missile, but a Ukrainian |
0:55.6 | air defense missile, one of the many fired that day against a barrage of incoming Russian missiles |
1:01.1 | onto Ukraine itself. Well, we'll have a closer look at that later on, but the big news for me is |
1:06.4 | still really Kerson. Wouldn't you agree, Saul? Yes, I would. As you say, Patrick, the missile strike did look |
1:13.2 | alarming for a moment, but a bit of a storm in a teacup. And the real news is what's happening at Kerson |
1:19.8 | and what might happen soon. It's clear now that despite all the talk of ruses and feints, |
1:25.1 | the Russians really have withdrawn from the only regional capital |
1:28.4 | they captured after the invasion in February, and they've now established new defence lines on the |
1:33.1 | far side of the Denepro River. The big question is what next? Is the abandonment of Kerson, |
1:39.5 | strategically cited close to the neck of the Crimean Peninsula, the beginning of the end for Russia's |
1:44.8 | war, or is it a sensible tactical move that allows its hard-pressed military to hold more |
1:49.7 | easily defensible positions in the south, while it moves troops to the battle that is raging |
1:54.8 | in the Dombas? After the break, we'll be putting these and other questions to Professor |
1:59.5 | Phillips O'Brien, |
2:05.3 | head of the School of International Relations at the University of St Andrews, and one of the most incisive commentators on the war, as proven by his huge and ever-growing following on Twitter. |
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