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PotterCast: The Harry Potter Podcast (since 2005)

15.2: Sorting It Out: J.K. Rowling, transphobia, and what just happened to our community (with Jackson Bird)

PotterCast: The Harry Potter Podcast (since 2005)

Mischief Media

Harrypotter, Jkrowling, Fantasticbeasts, Tv & Film, Cursedchild, Podcast, Books, Arts, Pottercast, Film Reviews

4.3 β€’ 1.5K Ratings

πŸ—“οΈ 21 December 2019

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to a very special episode of PotterCast!

This week, J.K. Rowling angered and saddened many fans when she came out in support of a woman whose company had not renewed her employment contract because she refused to recognize the legally protected rights of trans people. In coming back from a months-long Twitter hiatus, J.K. Rowling mischaracterized the facts of the case in support of a dangerous and unscientific movement that invalidates the trans experience, and in doing so flies in the face of medical consensus worldwide.

Her comments also confused a lot of fans who are not fully familiar with the issues at stake, or cannot understand how someone whose book series is so vehemently about tolerance can express support for a woman whose views invalidate so many people's existences. That's why in this episode, we are going over it all.

Jackson Bird, longtime friend of the podcast and of Leaky, as well as author, trans activist and educator, and expert Waffler, joins us to explain and process what this means for Harry Potter fans. We discuss:

  • What actually happened
  • What J.K. Rowling said versus what happened to the woman in question, Maya Forstater
  • Why many fans saw this coming
  • What to do now that the creator of the series we love so dearly has taken this stance
  • How to support trans and non-binary communities
  • How we as fans are feeling about all of this
  • What to do now, especially since we still love this community

We hope you'll listen and share. Here are some helpful resources, including things we mention in the show:

News articles regarding this incident:

News articles regarding past incidents that have also upset the community:

PotterCast and Leaky stand with our trans and non-binary friends and colleagues.

This episode is in the process of being transcribed. For more, see pottercast.com.

Transcript

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0:00.0

The Leakea Code

0:11.6

Podke The Leakic Cauver.

0:13.0

The Leakicau.

0:14.0

The Leakicau.

0:15.0

Do you hear that, Er, the Leakicau.

0:17.0

Just go!

0:18.0

You're wasting time.

0:20.0

Hey, welcome to Potter-cast, a very special Potter Cast.

0:24.5

Ding!

0:25.5

I'm Melissa.

0:27.1

I'm the only Pottercaster who's going to be here today.

0:30.2

John and Frankie really wanted to, but they're both in various stages of travel

0:34.0

for the holidays and we thought that this conversation was too important to wait.

0:38.6

Yesterday JK Rolling broke a long Twitter silence by tweeting support for Maya Forstatter, a woman whose

0:45.0

transphobic actions led her UK employers to fail to renew her employment contract and

0:50.5

I just lost the test case over the matter.

0:52.6

JK Rolling's tweet included coded transphobic language and

0:55.4

saddens and alarmed the Harry Potter fan community who have long seen her as an

0:59.3

ardent champion for tolerance.

1:01.0

A lot of you express confusion and concern about what exactly happened here and why it was so

1:05.8

upsetting.

1:06.8

And so today we are being joined by Jackson Bird, longtime friend of Leakey and Pottercast,

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