Hi, I'm Brian and I love Hallmark Christmas movies. Hey, I'm Panda and I like

Hallmark Christmas movies. I'm Dan and I despise Hallmark Christmas movies.

I'm Jonathan and I have a grudging respect for Hallmark Christmas movies. And this is the Deck the Hallmark Podcast.

Yeah, man, we are nailing it. It's almost like this is the sixth one of the night.

Wow. And we say the best for last Jonathan. How the heck are you? I mean, it is a thrill.

I'm a little embarrassed by how thrilled I am. Well, I can I tell you this like Jonathan just said he was

Jonathan, which I think is my favorite thing ever. Guys, we're talking to Jonathan Shapiro. He's a

TV producer, ABC's The Practice, Boston Legal, Amazon Primes, Goliath, the firm

life on NBC, the Paul Riser show. This guy is a for decades now has produced has been producing

prime time television. This is a serious get for us. Jonathan, thank you so much for joining us.

I am so sorry for you guys. Consider this serious.

Now you were telling us beforehand that you are writing a show for us. I'd love for you to

tell anybody about that show. When can they expect it and all that.

Well, it's a mixed family show. You're a group of young, ethically diverse

storidances. That's right. Yeah. This is give runs forever. It's not going to air in the Hallmark

channel, but that's a copy. Yeah.

Jonathan, tell everybody you were telling us a little bit, but tell everybody about your history

with these with these movies. How long have you been watching them? So my my beautiful daughter,

Sarah Shapiro, who's an Indiana user, and I thought we created this game maybe six years ago.

Whenever hallmarks started with movies and we watched them with the same

game with the same passion and enthusiasm and smart alakiness that you bring to it.

And so when we found your podcast, we actually thought you would stolen our brain waves.

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