Hi Joe Rode. What's going on behind you? What is all that jazz? Oh, it's all my when my kids were younger this is their pla. I'm in the attic.

When they were younger came up here with their cousins and doodle and then I got kicked up here.

It's my office now and I'm here with the bunny and the guinea pig and the rat.

He man, I miss you. I miss you on TV right now. I really do this is a perfect time for you

It's kind of crazy that you're not hosting that show anymore

But there's so many people doing that. You know, I was, I really did burn out. Like I felt like it's just redundant. You know, the nice thing for what you do is you get to curate and kind of be more active in to follow your own rhythm for it.

I was really tied to that rhythm of the 24-hour news cycle.

Right. And how fucking redundant it is and how cyclical.

And at a certain point I was like, I don't know what else to do with this and so I didn't want to stay just because I could

I just done it long enough and so I thought well let me just it was just time I thought like the audience needed a fresh perspective I needed a

fresh perspective like I just I just felt done like I was more I was more mad

about shit than then inspired you know I appreciate that you decided to go out at

the literally at the very top but it seems like

Especially right now like John Oliver is killing it and Trevor Noah's doing your show and it's like this is this is that there's so much to mock it's almost like an overload and doing real commentary on politics today in my opinion it's almost like you're doing

commentary on pro wrestling like this is a rigged game and you're on here

pretending like this shit makes sense

Yes, it really is.

Right.

Well it's also because that's the economic system that's been set up around politics

is the very same that Vince McMahon set up around wrestling. You create, I mean it is a kind of, you know, K-Fib, it's a sort of like,

there are characters. You know what it's like? When you're trying to produce

something every day, you're going to go with kind of a boilerplate structure. So you're going to say,

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