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Mormon Stories Podcast

1493: How Pornography and False Labels Caused My Mormon Wife To Leave Me - McKay Johnson Pt. 2

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 22 October 2021

⏱️ 133 minutes

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Summary

McKay ‘Spartacus’ Johnson is our guest today for this fantastic two-part Mormon Stories interview. Carah Burrell takes the reins again as lead interviewer as we talk to McKay about battling a “Nephi complex” growing up, early exposure to pornography, and his mission to Brasil where he describes being groomed by his mission companion and sexually assaulted. It’s an intense and undercover topic and we thank McKay for coming on the podcast to share his experience being a male sexual assault survivor.

In part two, McKay tells us about what it was like to heal from his mission and deconstruct the homophobic ideas he carried with him after his assault. Eventually getting married and divorced, we discuss with McKay what happened the night he confessed to his wife he had been occasionally viewing pornography and what can be done in Mormon culture to shift the unhelpful and counterproductive labeling of men like McKay. McKay is also a talented TikToker and musician, so we are happy he could find time to take a break from playing rock god to join us on Mormon Stories and we hope you’ll support him wherever his talents take him!

Content warning: This episode contains discussion of sexual assault.

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0:00.0

Hello and welcome to another episode of Mormon Stories Podcast. I am your host, Cara Barrell,

0:05.8

and I'm really excited to be joining Mckay Spartakis Johnson, Hay Mckay for part two, our interview with him.

0:13.4

And if you missed part one, you can pause this and go back and listen to it.

0:16.8

We discussed some of the traumatic things that happened to Mckay on his mission to Brazil.

0:20.8

So we are moving on from that part of his life and going to be jumping into him,

0:27.2

going to BYU, finding his wife through mutual, and we're going to be talking about a lot of the purity culture things.

0:33.9

And one of the most important things that I think is really interesting, if you listen to part one,

0:37.6

if you can imagine the type of homophobia that would develop in a person's mind from what Mckay experienced,

0:44.8

it's going to be really interesting to hear how he was able to deconstruct some of those things,

0:48.8

homophobia, and I think everyone's in for a really, really interesting interview today.

0:53.1

So Mckay is just one of my favorite people. He's so witty and funny and intelligent, and then we're also going to get into him getting into TikTok

1:00.0

and what that's been like and not to mention.

1:03.0

Mckay is also a really talented musician, and we want to talk about his band and his music,

1:06.8

and the other things that he's passionate about and that he wants to push for.

1:10.0

So Mckay, thanks for joining us.

1:12.8

Thanks for having me. Happy to be here, guys.

1:14.4

Yeah, and then of course we cannot forget the, what should I, I want to be like the Vanna White of Mormon stories over here doing the switchboard.

1:22.9

We have the one and only John Dylan. Hey, John.

1:25.8

Hi guys, welcome back Mckay. Thank you.

1:27.4

Have you.

1:28.2

So, so good to have John riding sidecar.

1:30.7

John is really sweet and wants to let me kind of develop my own style for do interviews.

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