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The Pomp Podcast

#1490 David Tse | How To Safely Get Yield On Your Bitcoin

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Business, Investing

4.81.9K Ratings

🗓️ 20 February 2025

⏱️ 31 minutes

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Summary

David Tse is the Co-Founder of Babylon Protocol. In this conversation he explains two use cases for bitcoin, why he is trying to build a third use case, staking in the bitcoin network, and what David thinks the future looks like. 

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0:00.0

What's up, everyone? This is Anthony Pompliano. Many of you know me as Pomp. You're listening to the Pomp

0:07.7

podcast, which is my effort to find the most interesting people in the world and sit with them for hours while I ask questions in an effort to learn. So it would mean the world to me if you would subscribe to the show on your favorite audio platform, watch episodes on YouTube,

0:21.1

and tell your friends and family about the podcast. My goal is to help millions learn from the

0:26.5

world's most interesting people. So let's get in to today's episode. What's going on, guys?

0:31.2

Today we got a great episode with David Say. He is the co-founder of Babylon Protocol. In this

0:35.5

conversation, he explains the two native use cases for Bitcoin,

0:38.5

why he's trying to build a third native use case. He explains why, given all of his academic

0:43.2

background and so much research history, he chose to focus on Bitcoin over every other technology

0:48.4

that he could right now. And then we get into staking and why using a Bitcoin secure network

0:52.6

is a new way to think about this and how

0:54.6

driving self-custodial staking may actually change the way people think about finance

0:58.6

and think about Bitcoin. This conversation is fascinating. There's a lot of R&D going on here.

1:03.0

There's a lot of vision for what it could be in the future. And then there's a lot of conversation

1:06.9

about what are the big questions, what are the risks, and how could this team possibly mitigate it?

1:15.2

I hope that you learn something if you listen to the full conversation that I just had with David say.

1:18.4

Anthony Pompliano runs Pomp Investments.

1:24.9

All views of him and the guests on his podcast are solely their opinions and do not reflect the opinions of Pomp Investments.

1:27.5

You should not treat any opinion expressed by Pomp or his guest as a specific inducement to make a particular investment or follow a

1:32.3

particular strategy, but only as an expression of his personal opinion. This podcast is for

1:37.3

informational purposes only. Today's episode is brought to you by NASDAQ listed BitDeer. They

1:43.5

trade under the stock ticker BTDR.

1:46.3

They're led by a season's management team.

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