149: White Allies and the Blacklist: Maurice Rapf (Six Degrees of Song of the South, Episode 4)
You Must Remember This
Karina Longworth
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🗓️ 12 November 2019
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Students Gate |
| 0:29.4 | Welcome to another episode of You Must Remember This, the podcast dedicated to exploring the secret and or forgotten histories of Hollywood's first century. |
| 0:45.4 | I'm your host, Karina Longworth, and this is another episode of our ongoing series, |
| 0:53.6 | Six Degrees of Song of the South. |
| 1:01.6 | Walt Disney got serious about Song of the South in the summer of 1944. |
| 1:08.6 | The first writer he hired to adapt Joel Chandler Harris' stories was Dalton Raymond, a historian from Louisiana, |
| 1:19.6 | whose previous Hollywood resume consisted of largely uncredited consulting on southern set films of the 1930s, such as Jezebel and The Little Foxes. |
| 1:33.6 | Before Raymond's screenplay was even finished, Disney became aware that the black community was skeptical of the project. |
| 1:42.6 | The Negro situation is a dangerous one. A Disney publicist wrote in an internal memo further explaining between the Negro haters and the Negro lovers, |
| 1:53.6 | there are many chances to run a foul of situations that could run the gamut all the way from the nasty to the controversial. |
| 2:02.6 | The Disney executives made an attempt to commission research that would help them to tow the line between the two factions. |
| 2:11.6 | They met with distribution officers from 20th Century Fox, who had worked on the all black musical Stormy Weather, |
| 2:19.6 | and who shared the challenges that film had faced in the deep south, where movie theaters were segregated. |
| 2:27.6 | Fox had booked the film in white theaters and black theaters, and reported that neither audience was happy about the film's representation of African Americans. |
| 2:38.6 | Stormy Weather, of course, wasn't anomaly in the 1940s, as a Hollywood film made to showcase black talent, and when such films received mixed responses, |
| 2:50.6 | the studios generally decided they weren't worth making. Hollywood claimed that it was risky to cast black performers in any kind of prominent role as anything but a subservient worker. |
| 3:03.6 | Because if they did, those movies would be censored or boycotted in the south. |
| 3:12.6 | The conventional wisdom is that studios made these concessions to southern racists, because the southern box office was so valuable. |
| 3:23.6 | But it actually wasn't. Sure, if a movie was a middling success elsewhere in the country, you'd want it to do okay in the south to the south. |
| 3:32.6 | Because the difference between half-full houses or empty houses in New Orleans or Memphis could mean the difference between just breaking even or losing money on a film. |
| 3:46.6 | But in general, the people in Hollywood who were making decisions based on southern box office returns were doing so without a lot of reliable empirical data. |
| 3:58.6 | They were likely to take a bad and rouge theater owners' word for what sold tickets and what didn't, in lieu of hard numbers. |
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