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Welcome to the couch plasmic. Thank you. I'm a fan, so I'm super honored to be here. Oh, that's lovely. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you. My pleasure. Thanks for joining me. I'm happy that we could do this in person. We were going to do this a few months ago or something.

Yeah, and just the timing worked out. We're vaccinated. We're here. We're queer. Get used to it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And we met at the Christine show that you opened at around Christmas 2019 is. Yeah, that was 2019.

I believe so was it was a sex sells show. And yeah, Christine was amazing. It was such an honor to open for her. Yeah, that was a great night. I remember you came backstage and I was just like, you're Craig from the podcast that I listened to.

And it was just, it was so sweet. Yeah, that's so sweet. And you were very helpful because I was very confused to try to figure out where Christine was.

I just wanted to say hello because she just put on this show. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It all worked out. We were all in this like little backstage room, like huddled up. Like it was cute. Yeah. Of course, I was at precinct, which is reopening this week. Yes, that's right. Everything. I mean, most, most things are reopening now. I just went to Akbar with Miss Neon actually.

Oh, cool. The other performer, exactly full circle. How was Akbar? It was just like seating, you know, you know, one guy like started dancing and he got in trouble.

Oh, really? Oh, wow. Yeah. So, but it was cool. It's like everything's starting to get better. It was outdoor seating. So sure. Yeah. There's a lot of really thorough outdoor seating options going on.

I like it. Santa Monica Boulevard. I walked. Yeah, excuse me, walked past hamburger marries. Oh, wow. Which and the last time I'd walked by there. I mean, I'd walked by there a few times, but it was really not late at night, but a couple of months ago, really late at night was like 7 p.m. Right. So I walked past it between 7 and 10 p.m. in the last couple months. And the whole street, of course, was super silent, but having hamburger marries be really quiet was really eerie. So now to see it bustling with activity was nice.

Yeah, I'm so glad it's open again. That's that's amazing. It's weird to see the things that have closed to weirdly. There was a bank of America. I don't know why, but for some reason I found it almost shocking. I was like, I know bars and restaurants and stuff, a bank. That's wow. Yeah.

It's not the entire bank of America. Right. Right. Yeah. It's just that one location. But yeah, it's interesting things. We didn't notice that we're all sitting like, oh, wow. That was that was closed. That was a, that's opening now. Yeah. It's cool.

I find that you have a little bit of schizophrenia approaching everything or at least a leaning towards it. Cause I, I go, I have this weird ping pong effect of like, this is great. Everything's normal. And then, well, what's going on?

Definitely. I went to a club recently that was like that. And people were showing their COVID cards at the door. So I really had like no reason to stress about it. But like no one's, no one was wearing their masks. And it was just kind of like,

yeah. But, but this is fine. It's okay. But there's still that like underlying of like, I mean, for, I mean, I'm already an introvert. So this is like a lot for me.

Oh, sure. You mean this right now? Not this. Not this. But going out. This is great. I'm happy to be here. This is nothing.

So in terms of get together, what do you prefer in terms of size? Cause if you're an introvert, that could make especially going into these situations where lots of people are around.

And you haven't been around a lot of people. That's already weird. But what's your ideal get together in terms of hanging out with folks? If it's not a club.

I think, I mean, I think I'm pretty good with like, I think I can go back to a club and be okay. I think I already went into the bus. I went to heaven party, which if you've seen pictures shop heaven, which it's Lulo, she, she manages that.

And those parties are always crazy. So I feel like if I can handle that, I can do anything now. So I'm good.

Yeah, it's good to jump in at the deep end. Right. I have schizophrenia about other things. That's like, I think I'm good now.

Okay. Good. What are some of the things that you have?

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