Welcome to Pick Me Up, I'm scared. The podcast.

I'm your host, Madeline. I'm your co-host, David.

And today we have a controversial topic.

Is it controversial?

Actually, okay, you know what I've been thinking about? I just bought that, like, for the longest time I've wanted to read it, and it's not been available at the library, so I bought the fucking book. What is it? Techno-orientalism. Oh. Because I've been thinking a lot about... How China-pilled are you? Well, just how China-pilled everyone is. I mean, hey, it's the age of China. Yeah, I mean, I... We're coming up China. We're coming up China. And, like, I'm all for that. I think that's fucking fantastic. Yes, Asian ping, come save us, give us high-speed rails. You're ping-pilled. I'm so ping-pilled, baby. But I've been thinking a lot about the ways in which sometimes I get a little uncomfortable, by the way... I am so... No, no, no, no, you're fine. I'm fine. But, like, other people... You think there are people more China-pilled than... Well, no, but, like, when they go to... What's the, like, the, like, techno city where it's like, I'm on the 31st floor. I'm on the... Oh, yeah, yeah. Like, and the... Is it Chongqing? Chongqing? Chongqing, I think. Yeah. It is a beautiful city.

It looks like a video.

Okay, yeah. Like, and the- Is it Chongqing? Chongqing, I think. Yeah, yeah. It is a beautiful city. It looks like a video. Okay, yeah, I mean, I have, but that is some fucking techno-oriental is sort of, yeah, yeah. Totally. Like it feels. They're like, why don't people, why do people sleep on China? It's just as cool as Japan, and you're like, that's weird. This is getting weird.

No, it's weird. But like, I was just like, so I'm only, I'm just starting the fucking book. So that's Moses and monotheism. That's my bus reading. Yeah, this is, you brought Sigmund Freud to my house. You're just casually reading Sigmund Freud on the bus. Dude, okay, fucking, okay, here's the thing. This is route in the way of chit-chat. Before we record, I always say, should we chit-chat? Yeah, and I usually say yes. Unless I'm like, we got a lot to get through. Yeah. Or the horrors abound, and I have no capacity for chit-chat. Okay, but so Freud's speculative histories. Oh, my God. This is not chit-chat, David.

No, this is, this is... This is a lesson plan. No, what I'm saying is that Freud's speculative

histories read, like, uh, like spy novels or like mystery novels. I mean, I could see that for him.

They're, like, he is fantastical. Yeah. I'm just saying, because I mean, I could see that for him. They're, like, he's fantastical.

Yeah.

I'm just saying, because I just, I just reread in the Freud archives, which is like a fantastic nonfiction fucking thing by Janet Malcolm.

I highly recommend everyone should fucking read Janet Malcolm, everything Janet Malcolm has ever written, including her fabulous fucking profile of Eileen Fisher.

Oh, interesting.

Which is fucking fantastic.

But his bet, like, so future of an illusion, totamentaboo, Moses and monotheism, and some, the, what's it, the civilization book that I can't remember the fucking title now.

I don't know.

That's all you.

This is your world of interest.

And you brought over Moses in monotheism, which is, okay, so first of all, I was, this is actually relevant to current events.

So in, I doubt it.

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