Here we're rolling. What's up? Good to see you guys. Good to see you, too.

It's always weird to meet somebody when you watch a lot of their YouTube content or TV

con and then you're like, you you're real I could touch your hands.

That's how I feel about you.

Let's you know we all feel about each other that way.

It's very odd.

It is a strange dynamic.

I love you guys. Thank you. Thank you. Well same we feel the same for sure

You guys are honest. I mean we're talking about that earlier like it's so rare that someone is just calling it like it is like what you see and obviously you guys don't

agree on everything and you know no one does but right we all have varying opinions

but you say what you feel and that is so valuable today it's so unusual it's such a

weird partisan time it is a weird partisan time like it's never been harder to

actually just do that thing and I can't say I mean we don't get it right all

the time but the whole idea was to try to have this conversation between kind of the new left

and the new right that wasn't happening anywhere in a way that was valuing people's

humanity that was trying to deal in the land of the honest, not cheerleading a team or the other, but

actually trying to like be straightforward about what we think and

evaluating the facts as we find them and I mean I have to say like you have somewhat

created that space where that can happen so I think we're in part indebted to you.

Yeah, absolutely.

And you know, it's crazy.

I think the reason it works is because we both kind of came up in

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