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The freeCodeCamp Podcast

#148 Open Source is WILD. The craziest things The Changelog has seen in 15 years.

The freeCodeCamp Podcast

Quincy Larson

Education, Technology

5.0549 Ratings

🗓️ 1 November 2024

⏱️ 101 minutes

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Summary

On this week's episode of the podcast, freeCodeCamp founder Quincy Larson interviews Adam Stachoviac and Jerod Santo co-hosts of The Changelog – the longest-running software podcast in world. They interview devs about Open Source projects, and they also have a weekly news episode that I always listen to. 5 years ago, Quincy interviewed them for their 10th anniversary episode, and now he's back catching up on what they've been doing for the past 5 years.

We talk about:
- How open source is changing
- Open data and open LLM models
- Self-reliance and self-hosted infrastructure
- The business of running a developer community

Can you guess what song I'm playing in the intro?

Also, I want to thank the 10,993 kind people who support our charity each month, and who make this podcast possible. You can join them and support our mission at: https://www.freecodecamp.org/donate

Links we talk about during our conversation:

- Honeypot episode Adam mentions: https://changelog.com/podcast/557

- Steve Yegge episodes Quincy mentions: https://changelog.com/podcast/549

- Open Source Civilization episode Jerod mentions: https://changelog.com/podcast/428

 

Transcript

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0:00.0

Because software runs the world and open source software has eaten software, and so far as it's almost all open source, the stakes have never been higher. The

0:23.6

The Welcome back to the Free Code Camp podcast.

0:46.0

I'm Quincy Larson, teacher and founder of Freakocatamp.org.

0:49.1

Each week where you're bringing you insight from developers, founders, and ambitious people in tech.

0:54.4

And this week, we are talking with Adams Toccoviak and Jared Santo, co-hosts of the

1:01.2

ChangeLog, the longest running software podcast in the world.

1:06.7

They interview devs each week about open source projects, and they also have a weekly news episode that I always listen to.

1:14.1

Five years ago, I interviewed them for their 10th anniversary episode, and now I'm back catching up on what they've been up to for the last five years.

1:21.5

Adam, Jared, welcome to the show.

1:23.9

Thank you.

1:25.5

Five years, man.

1:26.5

Happy to be here.

1:44.6

The last time I was in person. Yeah. It was. That was fun. Literally in person. And I said literally the correct way. That's right. We were literally in the same room, unlike today, we're digitized. That was a good time, though. It was a more logistical hassle than this, right was easy button yeah yeah i mean we're we're busy grownups with kids and stuff

1:49.1

and uh this is a practical way that we can come together and uh share it tails right i think

1:56.3

uh jared day flighted into houston last time you drove down from plano right were? Were you in Plano, Texas, right by Dallas? I live in Austin now, so I don't know if that's... Oh, I didn't know you moved. Yeah, yeah, that's what happened since five years. A lot of happens, right? Yeah, well, first of all, everybody, after you listened to this, the short story, the 10 years of history,

2:18.4

and I'll just recalls

2:19.8

of the best of my ability.

2:22.0

First,

2:23.3

you all,

2:24.6

like,

2:26.2

Adam started this podcast,

2:27.9

got a lot of initial traction.

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