Welcome to How Leaders Lead, where every week you get to listen in while I interview some of the very best leaders in the world.

I break down the key learning so that by the end of the episode, you'll have something simple you can apply as you develop into a better leader.

That's what this podcast is all about.

You know, I don't think anybody understands healthy organizations better than my guest today. Patrick Lynchoni is the founder

of the table group and his books on teams and leadership have sold more than 8 million copies

around the world. One of those books is called The Five

Dysfunctions of a Team, and I got to tell you, I loved it so much that we cascaded it through the

entire organization of young brands. His ideas are just that good, and today's podcast is no

exception. Now, you've probably heard of us talk about the importance of

vulnerability for leaders. But what does being vulnerable actually look like? How can it change the

way you lead meetings, tackle conflict, or even look at your whole career? Patrick's insights

will help you answer those questions. And I got to tell you, when it comes to leadership, you really can't be a great leader

until you understand the power of vulnerability.

So here's my conversation with my good friend and soon to be yours, Patrick Lynchone.

You know, Pat, let me tell you something.

It's been a long time since we've been together.

You may remember this, but you spoke at our leadership conference in Hawaii, where we came

together.

We brought in our top 200 leaders and their spouses around the world to celebrate

the fact that we doubled our stock price in five years. And you just did a great job. But I don't know.

Did you get to see the Michael McDonald concert we had or not? I certainly did. It was an intimate

affair with Michael McDonald. And then I got on a plane and went home.

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