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Hello and welcome to the second episode of the Restis Politics Leading, where Alistair and I are talking to Jeremy Hunt.

And if you listen to episode one, you'll know that we talked a bit about Jeremy Hunt's early life and he's rise into politics and what he thought of some of the big figures in politics.

And in particular, his time with Cameron

and Osborne, London 2012 Olympics, and his time as Health Secretary. But now we're going,

moving into maybe more controversial times, foreign secretary and then chancellor under

Liz Truss, after he picked up the pieces of her mini-budget.

Jeremy, before we get into what sort of conservatory,

let's actually go straight to the Chancellor thing,

because that was an unbelievable period in British politics where Listruss-Truss beats Rishishinac for the leadership of the Tory party.

I don't need to ask who you voted for.

And it's just mayhem.

And we have this, she brings in quasi-quieting as Chancellor.

We've talked to him on the podcast before,

and even he seemed to think it was all a bit sort of weird and wacky.

And then he falls.

He becomes the sort of fall guy for the market.

It's going completely crazy on the back of the many budget that she was so proud of.

And then you're by now on the back benches and you get a phone call.

So just sort of talk us through it.

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