So, Mike, I'm returning the favor that you gave me last week of being exhausted.

And I really shouldn't complain because I had a much less intense night than you did when you flew from the United States to London in order to record.

But I had a very tough night, Mike.

I was up until 1.30 in the morning.

I'm very sleepy.

I work up at 5.30. I know. I'm very sleepy. I woke up at 5.30.

I know.

And actually, we spoke to each other last, what, four or five hours ago, six hours

ago, something like that, more than that.

Yeah, I assume that, well, that people know what this is about.

We were part of a podcast special, which I won't spoil for the live listeners. So we'll put a link in the show notes to it.

Yeah. And so we, we spoke at about one in the morning my time, which was about six in the

morning, your time. And I got to say, I don't recall a time when we spoke, in a podcasting

sense, when you and I have spoken, and then like eight hours

later spoken again.

Well, no, because the logistics of making that occur just based upon how the time works

for both of us is a nightmare that neither of us would actually choose to do for anything other

than being on a cool thing with friends.

Yeah, that's exactly right.

So a funny thing about last week's episode, as I was polishing it up to finish off

the edit and stuff as you do, and we're going to talk about the editing process of this

show a little bit later on for a different reason.

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