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Today, in a slight change from normal, and partly because we're so backed up, we're going to be answering listeners

questions, but we're going to try and do it in a certain amount of detail and hopefully

we'll be covering some really interesting ground. But fear not, we will be back to normal

next week with the start of our warlord series. Okay, first question, Patrick, is from Mark and it's Rommel question Mark. Really, he's the

guy. Now, Mark is referring to a comment. I think we made Patrick in the previous episode when we were

discussing who was the one of the finest commanders of the Second World War. And your suggestion,

if I remember rightly, was Rommel. Mark

doesn't agree. He goes on to say, I think success is far more often the result of counter-side

incompetence. That's incompetence by the other side. The taking of Tobruk when the Brits decided

that the Gazala line and box defence were worth anything seems more about British incompetence than about

Romual's brilliance. Romual didn't understand or respect logistics and any good leader must. So in

his view, it's a resounding no to your suggestion. Patrick, what's your feeling? Well, I think Mark

should remember what the actual question was. And the question was, what historical figure

would you look to as an example in appointing a commander to lead Ukraine on the field in its

current difficulty? So you chose Bill Slim, which was a good choice. And I chose Romual, not because

I don't think Romer was faultless, but I was citing him as an inspiring figure who could

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