147 - Author Toni Natalie on Escaping NXIVM & Her Book: "The Program"
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Pink Shade
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🗓️ 24 September 2019
⏱️ 55 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hey everyone, welcome to Pink Shade with Erin Martin. |
| 0:18.6 | We are taking a step away from reality TV for today's episode and getting into some |
| 0:24.6 | cult talk. |
| 0:26.1 | Thank you to everyone who's gone over to my other podcast in the past year. |
| 0:29.2 | We'll talk with Erin Martin and listen to that. |
| 0:31.2 | It's my family story of leaving the Kobu cult and I connected with Tony Natali last |
| 0:36.9 | year based on our shared experiences, mine with my family and her with Keith Reneerie |
| 0:43.0 | of the Nexium Cult. |
| 0:45.0 | Now she was in a relationship with Keith Reneerie for eight years and this was before Nexium |
| 0:50.3 | turned into what we see as the cult became. |
| 0:54.2 | However, she has an inside story to tell and she does so with a book that is actually |
| 0:59.4 | being released two days. |
| 1:01.4 | The book is called The Program inside the mind of Keith Reneerie and the rise and fall |
| 1:07.2 | of Nexium. |
| 1:08.2 | It's by Tony Natali who I'm interviewing today along with Chet Harden, a journalist she's |
| 1:13.1 | worked with for many years on this story. |
| 1:15.8 | Tony has written what I can tell you firsthand having read an advance copy is a super compelling |
| 1:22.0 | book. |
| 1:23.0 | He has told me more, has taught me more about how Nexium came to be and how Keith Reneerie |
| 1:28.1 | as its leader operates than any podcast, any book, any article I've read period. |
| 1:33.4 | I would highly suggest getting Tony's book if you are at all interested in learning |
| 1:38.0 | more about Nexium. |
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