146: Why Your Conversations Fail and How to Fix Them with Charles Duhigg

The Sabrina Zohar Show

Mental Health, Education, Relationships, Self-improvement, Society & Culture, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 20 June 2025

⏱️ 50 minutes

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Summary

Join Sabrina Zohar and Charles Duhigg — a Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist, bestselling author of The Power of Habit and Supercommunicators, and current writer for The New Yorker — as they break down the communication skills vital for building better relationships. In this episode, they explore essential tools for effective communication, including how to listen actively and how to distinguish between emotional and practical conversations.
Discover how mastering these skills can transform not just your romantic life, but also your friendships, family interactions, and professional relationships.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode
- Active Listening
- Emotional vs. Practical Conversations
- Building Trust and Resolving Conflict
- Communication Beyond Romance

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0:00.0	Hey, Charles.
0:01.0	Hey, how are you?
0:01.9	I'm good.
0:02.5	Welcome to the podcast.
0:03.4	Thank you for having me on.
0:04.4	This is such a treat.
0:05.4	I'm so excited.
0:06.3	I am super stoked just because, one, I love your work.
0:09.2	I love everything you talk about.
0:10.7	But I think for everyone, and we kind of talked about this little bit offline, we are evolving
0:15.5	because I think I don't want to just focus on dating and relationships. Of course, we will talk about them because they're important. But I think communication and understanding, how do you properly communicate? How do you listen? What does active listening actually mean? How can you start to understand? I want to be able to give our audience the tools to not only help them as they're dating, as they're going out, as they're vetting people and making sure that this is somebody that they could be with, but even friends, family, themselves.
0:39.3	Absolutely.
0:39.6	And at its core, communication is about connection, right?
0:42.2	It's about connecting with another person.
0:44.6	And you're right, in relationships, connection is really important.
0:48.3	But so is it at work, right?
0:50.2	And with our family and with our friends and with the guy who lives next to us or the woman we see at the store.
0:56.0	Connection is what sort of makes life meaningful.
0:58.1	I love that because I'm like, I'm all about connecting, not attaching.
1:00.3	I'm like, I want to connect with somebody and I want to get over because it's so funny.
1:03.1	I saw someone the other day posted like, because I was like, I get anxious when I go out and like new places.
1:08.8	And they're like, yeah, because you hate small talk. I was like, oh, I do. I was like, I'm not going to, you know, don't make me sit there.
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