146: What the Bleep Happened to the Church?—John Gravino

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🗓️ 17 September 2019

⏱️ 71 minutes

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Many people, especially Catholics, are vexed and confused about how the once admirable Catholic Church suddenly became identified with pedophilia, leadership corruption, duplicity, and worldly ideals having little to do with the gospel.

Author John Gravino has outlined two forces—one intellectual, one moral—working in tandem (although not always intentionally as allies) to create the present crisis. So the John Jay Report found that 81% of sexual abuse victims were teen boys (not “children”). But which moral theologians taught these predators in Roman collars?

And what about humanistic psychology? Ever hear of Carl Rogers and William Coulson—or Richard McCormick, SJ, or Andre Guindon, or Charles Curran? If the answer is no, this interview is the place to start understanding how the bleep we got here as a Church that claims to have been founded and sustained by Jesus Christ.

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0:00.0	Welcome to episode 146 of the Patrick Coffin Show.
0:04.0	Welcome to this episode of the Patrick Coffin Show.
0:06.0	This is a very important topic and we're going to be drilling into a new book,
0:11.0	maybe you could say booklet, but it's more substantial than a booklet.
0:15.0	It ties together a couple of threads that you probably haven't thought about tying together.
0:19.9	On the one hand, when you ask the question, how did we get into this Catholic
0:23.7	Church scandal mess? What are the roots of it? How did this come about? Well, our
0:29.6	guest today has tied together a couple of these things into one little thesis and it has to do with the introduction
0:35.9	of secularist, humanistic psychology on the one hand and dissent on the moral theological front on the other.
0:43.4	Those combined to make a two-fer, one-two punch
0:47.8	against actual Catholic teaching and praxis.
0:52.1	And it's a fascinating book it's called
0:54.5	Confronting the Pope of Suspicion the Key to Church Reform its author John
0:58.6	Gravino is my guest but before I introduce him we're going to talk a little bit
1:02.4	about the pontificate of Benedict
1:04.4	the 16th and the clarity that he had as a biblical theologian.
1:09.0	And I want to invite you to come to Bavaria next year.
1:11.9	It's May 17th through 25th. We're going to be in the Alps.
1:15.2	So the southern, beautiful part of Germany. We're going to be in the church where a little
1:18.7	baby Joseph Ratzinger was baptized. Here his whole story, his vocation to the priesthood, his rise
1:24.6	to the hierarchy to become Pope Benedict now, Pope Benedict Emeritus the 16th. We're
1:29.5	going to go to the Obrayamigail Passion play. This is a live presentation of our Lord's Passion in a town called
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