The worst thing that could happen is that you look a little stupid in front of somebody.

And like compared to kind of where I grew up, that's not, that's not, that's nothing.

You know, my parents went through way more difficult times than me think, like someone thinking wrong of you at, like work.

Don't be scared to look maybe not like not the smartest person in the room.

Just try to learn. And most people are there to help out. Welcome back to the Free Code Camp podcast. I'm Quincy Larson, teacher and founder of FreecodeCamp.org. Each week we'll bring you insight from developers,

founders, and ambitious people getting into tech. And this week, we are joined by Tadas Petra.

He is a software engineer and a senior developer advocate at agorra.io. After learning

embedded development at university, he switched to building mobile apps and he's gone on to build dozens of mobile apps and create tutorials around Flutter and other amazing developer tools.

Titus, welcome to the podcast.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, man.

You're somebody whom I've meant to talk to for a long time.

You've made this amazing history of Free Code-Camp video a few years ago. Yeah. That is still probably the best rendition of, like, free co-camps, like, first few months and, and my personal backstory. So thank you very much for doing that. I link that in the show notes. Don't go over there until after you finish this.

But yeah, man, like you have moved around a lot.

You've done a lot of things.

And you're relatively, you know, like how long have you been working as a dev?

Like, what, is it seven, eight years now?

Yeah, yeah.

So you're still relatively young.

And I want to hear about all about your transitions as a developer because you've

gone through at least three distinct phases as a developer.

But what I'm really interested in doing is just like diving in to your origin story as a developer.

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