I've dreamt that you were twisting through seven sons of gold and the gypsy was insisting

that story must be told I came two in the morning but I took it as a warning that you might be a treasure.

I could touch but never hold.

Hey there, everybody.

Welcome to the Soberful podcast.

My name is Veronica Valley.

And mine is Chip Summers.

So this is our penultimate episode before we have one more.

That's the right word, isn't it, penultimate? Yes, that is correct. Yeah. Thank you. Good.

Yeah. Yeah. So we have one more episode at the end of June and then we will be taking a two-month

summer break to replenish and rest and take care of ourselves. So we will be back

with a bang in September. So if you haven't listened to, we have like, I don't know, I think

close to 150 episodes. So if you haven't listened to some of the ones, the older ones, that would

be a good time to check them out. Do you have summer plans, Chip, or is it still

too hard to make summer plans? It is quite difficult to make summer plans. Certainly, we're not

going abroad. I'm going for a week to Yorkshire with my wife, and I'm going for a week on the

canals in a long boat with my son. Other than that, we don't really dare risk anything at the moment because it's just

too risky.

And so not risky because the point of view, it's just too risky about making travel

arrangements and having cancelled and things like that.

So, no, we're pretty resigned to having short breaks, little going away for

three or four days here and there. Yeah. That's how we'll get through the summer. Yeah. Well, if you can get

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