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#1459 Madison's Journals

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Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 7 September 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

When reading Thomas Jefferson's correspondence, one often sees examples of his belief that the less government, the better. In this week's episode, President Thomas Jefferson discusses the writing of the Constitution and comments on The Journal of the Federal Convention by James Madison. Jefferson wrote, "it may be proved that no society can make a perpetual constitution, or even a perpetual law. The earth belongs always to the living generation."

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Mentioned on this episode: Lindsay Chervinsky: Why "The Framers Never Intended" is Garbage, 1787: The Grand Convention by Clinton Rossiter, Decision in Philadelphia: The Constitutional Convention of 1787 by Christopher Collier, Miracle at Philadelphia: The Story of the Constitutional Convention, May to September 1787 by Catherine Drinker Bowen, Wikipedia: Notes of Debates in the Federal Convention of 1787

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0:00.0

Good day, Thomas Jefferson Hour podcast listeners.

0:03.5

As always, thank you so much for your time, taking time to listen.

0:07.6

We so appreciate it.

0:09.5

And we also appreciate your support.

0:11.8

If you'd like to support the Thomas Jefferson Hour, you can do so by going to JeffersonHour.com.

0:19.2

And you can also find a schedule of Clay's personal appearances, his cultural tours, his online

0:27.1

classes at JeffersonHour.com.

0:31.3

Having said all of that, this week, we talked to President Jefferson about the Constitution.

0:37.2

It was really an interesting conversation.

0:40.5

Jefferson wasn't there.

0:42.5

He was in Europe between 1784 and 1789.

0:45.7

So he missed the preliminary Annapolis Convention, which collapsed, and he missed the Constitutional

0:51.2

Convention.

0:52.2

Also missing was John Adams, who would have been a really interesting figure at the

0:56.5

Constitutional Convention.

0:58.2

Probably we are blessed by not having either of them there, frankly, because Adams would

1:03.1

have talked all the time.

1:05.1

And he was one of the world's leading experts on constitutions.

1:08.7

He had written a massive history of the constitutions of the United States.

1:12.7

And he would have held forth because he would have deserved to hold forth, but it would

1:17.4

have been much more tedious experience, probably.

1:25.1

And he would not have suffered fools very well.

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