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We usually have a somewhat narrow view of what the pro-life issues are.

We talk about, of course, the unborn.

We talk about the end of life.

We talk about life in between, protecting life from beginning to end, as we often say here on issues, etc.

But are there issues that don't first appear to be pro-life issues that, in fact, at least indirectly are?

Welcome back to issues, etc. I'm Todd Wilken.

Joining us to talk about law and order as a pro-life issue, Delano Squires.

He's research fellow for the Divas Center for Life, Religion, and Family at the Heritage Foundation.

He holds a Master of Public Policy degree from George Washington University, and he's author of a recent column

for the Federalist titled, You Can't Be Pro-Life in Anti-Law and Order. Delano, welcome back.

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