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Hey James, do you remember when Trump and allies like Jim Jordan were complaining about all the time and wasted resources of special counsel Robert Mueller pointed by the Trump Justice Department.

He was wasted on the hoax of the Trump Russian connection. Well, in less than two years, Mueller got 34 convictions including Trump's campaign manager, the deputy campaign manager and national security adviser and report that left no doubt that the Russians sought to help Trump in 2016.

The only question was whether you could prove collusion.

Let's fast forward to the day and the counter moved by Trump and William Barr to claim the real problem, the real hoax was what the Clinton and Democrats cooked up to try to incriminate poor old Donald Trump.

And they appointed John Durham to look into this. Durham has been doing that now for three years.

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