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Hello, delicious friends and welcome to Who Dead What Now, the History Podcast. It's not your history class with me your host, Katie Charlwood, History Highlet and Reader of Books.

It is Pride Month, everybody, and would it be Pride Month if we weren't upsetting transphobes the world over? So first off, we have this fan cast of Zelda going on, right?

It's not even in production, it's not even a thing, but someone said, wouldn't Hunter Schaefer be

perfect for playing Princess Zelda? And if you look at Hunter Schaefer, yeah. She looks like

the daughter of Galadriel. Like she looks like Princess Zelda. And you have all of the transphobes coming at the woodwork complaining that, you know,

Hunder shave is not a biological woman, as if Princess Zelda is a biological human. Like,

she's from Hyrule, the mythical land of Hyrule. She's Hyalian. She is a creature with elf-like features.

We don't know anything about the biology, and I do not recall anywhere in the Zelda lore

where it specifically says that Zelda has a vagina. I mean, nowhere to my knowledge, right?

But like here's the thing.

In Okina of time, Zelda magics herself into chic, into a man, right?

And then, in, what was it, a breath of the wild, transforms into a dragon.

And yet, having a trans woman play this role is somehow out and the, you know, out of the bound somehow?

Like, what is this? It's absolutely nonsense.

And then I had another little thought that I posted to threads, which has made more people angry.

I was like, I don't get why, you know, transphobes use, you know, biology specifically

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