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Core IM | Internal Medicine Podcast

#145 Heart Failure in Older Adults & Guardianship: Gray Matter Segment

Core IM | Internal Medicine Podcast

Core IM Team

Mental Health, Education, Health & Fitness, Medicine

4.81K Ratings

🗓️ 14 February 2024

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

How do you manage GDMT in a frail older adult? When is a guardian needed and what is the process for obtaining guardianship?

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Show Notes & Transcript

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  • 04:03 Deep Dive 1: How do you approach guideline-directed medical therapy of heart failure with reduced ejection fraction in a frail older adult?
  • 11:55 Deep Dive 2: When is a guardian needed and what is the process for obtaining guardianship?
  • 28:30 Deep Dive 3: How do you re-evaluate GDMT in a frail older adult once an adverse event has occurred?
  • 33:27 Reflections
  • 37:06 Recap


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0:00.0

Welcome to Gray Matters, where we unpack how medical management is rarely black or white.

0:07.0

And we go on deep dives along the way.

0:10.0

I'm Jason Freed, a hematologist at Beth Israel Decidus Medical Center.

0:13.4

And I'm Allie Trainer, a pulmonary and critical care attending at Mount Auburn Hospital.

0:17.4

And today we're also joined by our friend and colleague Dr. Emily Citron.

0:20.6

Hi, I'm a geriatrician at the University of North Carolina Chapel Hill. You know

0:25.8

Emily as a geriatrician you have some experience working in gray areas?

0:31.1

I definitely do but you know there is still one case that just really stood out to me

0:36.4

it's a particularly challenging case of heart failure and this patient actually lives

0:40.8

at the nursing home where I work and I've just learned a

0:43.3

ton along the way. Can you tell us about meeting your patient? Sure she was 91 years

0:49.2

old and I initially admitted her for rehab after a heart failure

0:52.6

hospitalization, where she was found

0:54.5

to have a newly reduced ejection fraction.

0:57.1

She was discharged on an aspirin,

0:59.6

a statin, carvatalol, spironolactone,

1:02.4

losartin,

1:03.2

and Pegloflosin, and Lasex, which were all new.

1:06.9

Prior to this admission, she actually didn't even

1:09.0

take a single medication.

1:11.5

Man, that sounds like a ton of new meds.

1:15.0

But I was actually just listening to the Cori M5 Pearls episode on GDMT for heart

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