#1446 The Signers

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Society & Culture, History

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🗓️ 8 June 2021

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

Clay Jenkinson is once again joined by the author and historian Joseph Ellis for a program answering listener questions, including inquiries about the 56 men who signed the Declaration of Independence, Jefferson's marriage, Jefferson's relationship with Napoleon, and the Louisiana Purchase.

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0:00.0	Good day, Thomas Jefferson, our podcast listeners. Thank you so much for listening. This week,
0:06.6	another stellar exchange of ideas, knowledge, and historical facts between Professor Joseph
0:14.3	Ellis and our own creator of the Thomas Jefferson, our Mr. Clay Jenkins. I just enjoy the conversations
0:22.7	between you two so much. I've known Joe for a long time. We've become very close friends in
0:29.3	the last year and a half. And you and he have become close friends. And yeah, you two became
0:34.0	friends in in almost juvenile mischief with Ken Burns watching. We were we were the those two
0:40.4	hecklers in the back of the room. And and and Ken Burns had to review us and tell us that he's
0:45.0	going to throw us out if we didn't shape up. And we wound up being two of the three main talking
0:51.0	heads in his Jefferson film in spite of our rudeness. But you know, Joe is a smart Alec. And as you know,
0:58.0	I am one too. And we both find certain parts of I don't I don't think I'd use the word smart Alec.
1:05.2	I think I would say that you are witty, which at times leans into a juvenile phase. That's better
1:14.4	than smart Alec. Well, I was using smart Alec as a fairly neutral term, but that's fine. Anyway,
1:21.1	we had a great time with it. And we were but we've known each other and he acknowledged me in his
1:26.3	book on Jefferson and said that, you know, that he had actually written the book after hearing me
1:30.6	perform as Jefferson. And so then we've gone back and forth. It's kind of no, I'd ask him a question
1:36.5	every three or four years and so on. And then suddenly with the coming of the pandemic,
1:42.8	well, we had talked with him a couple of times on the Jefferson hour before that. And then
1:46.0	the pandemic, he sort of made it clear that he was available. And so I thought this is a once
1:50.5	in a lifetime chance. I mean, this is one of the top five historians in the country
1:55.9	in his senior years in retirement. And why wouldn't we want to debrief such an extraordinary
2:03.2	intellect? And so it turns out he likes it as much as we do. The only thing I miss today was his
2:08.0	dogs barking. Well, when we called to get him online, he was like, well, I just got the dogs
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