It began long ago, two young boys in an American town riding their bikes to school and little league practice.

Over the years, the boys became fast friends, united in their love for stories where things would go horribly wrong.

Pour yourself a strong beverage and buckle up. You're in the shallow end with

Schnebley and Toff. Episode 144 of the shallow end with Schnebley and Toth. And before we start

telling stories about people making stupid decisions, I had one of those very odd six degrees of

separation sort of stories yesterday in the park and I thought oh I

can't wait to tell Jethro this is this one of your uh L.A. encounters it is actually an L.A.

encounter it's it involves a celebrity of sorts in terms of music but what made it interesting

was that it was it's about somebody that I have admired

and listened to for decades.

And then this friend that I ran into in the park yesterday while he was walking his dog

turns out to be practically best friends with this guy.

And I was just gobsmacked by the fact. And I know, Jethro, that you're

going to know instantly the name of this musician, this celebrity musician that I'm about to say.

Do you want to take a guess? Because there are only zillions of famous musicians in America. He's still alive.

I was going to say, can I rule out dead people?

You can rule out dead people.

I'm going to guess this man is probably in his 70s now.

Michael McDonald.

I don't know.

Actually, an extremely close guess.

Really?

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