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Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

144 | Solo: Are We Moving Beyond the Standard Model?

Sean Carroll's Mindscape: Science, Society, Philosophy, Culture, Arts, and Ideas

Sean Carroll | Wondery

Society & Culture, Physics, Philosophy, Science, Ideas, Society

4.84.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2021

⏱️ 72 minutes

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Summary

I’ve been a professional physicist since the 1980’s, and not once over the course of my career has a particle-physics experiment produced a completely surprising new result. We’ve discovered particles (top quark, Higgs boson) and even phenomena (neutrino masses), but nothing we hadn’t either predicted or could easily accommodate within the Standard Model of particle physics. That might have changed just this month, with possible confirmations of two “anomalies” in particle-physics measurements involving muons. They might be new physics, or they might just go away. I talk about what it might mean, and (more importantly) how we should feel about the likelihood that these results really do imply physics beyond the Standard Model.

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Here are some relevant references for the first result, from LHCb at CERN, that B-mesons are seemingly decaying at different rates into electrons and muons:

And here are some references for the other result, from the Muon g-2 experiment at Fermilab, on the anomalous magnetic moment of the muon:


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0:00.0

Hello everybody, welcome to the Mindscape Podcast. I'm your host Sean Carroll.

0:04.6

A few weeks ago, I'm recording this in April 2021,

0:08.0

we had not won but two different reports of completely independent anomalies in particle physics.

0:15.0

That is to say, apparent disagreements between the theoretical predictions based on the standard model of particle physics,

0:21.7

which is very well-established, and new experimental results.

0:24.9

One of the results came from the Large Hadron Collider, outside Geneva, Switzerland,

0:29.2

the other from Fermi Lab, outside Chicago, Illinois.

0:32.1

They both involve muons, little particles that are heavier cousins of the electrons,

0:37.0

but they're otherwise not immediately connected to each other.

0:40.6

We don't yet know whether these anomalies are real in some sense.

0:45.0

I mean, the anomalies are real, they're there, but we don't know where they actually represent new physics,

0:49.6

or we just made a mistake, either experimentally or theoretically.

0:53.2

So lots of people have asked for my opinion about these things, so that's what this podcast is going to do.

0:58.2

But because I am who I am, I'm not going to focus mostly on what it means for the future of particle physics,

1:06.0

because we don't know what it means for the future of particle physics.

1:09.2

I mean, number one, we don't know if it's real, like we just said,

1:11.8

we don't know if it's going to stick around, either one.

1:13.9

And number two, the data that we're getting, the information that we're measuring, is kind of meager,

1:19.7

right? You're measuring two different numbers in two different ways,

1:22.7

and that's not quite enough to be very explicit about what model might explain it.

1:28.1

The problem with this kind of thing is, there's many models that could possibly explain this.

1:32.4

So you can't instantly say, ah, you've detected this, therefore, supersymmetry,

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