144. Gary Stevenson: From Teenage Drug Dealer to Millionaire Trader (Part 1)

Leading

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Politics, Government, News

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🗓️ 20 July 2025

⏱️ 35 minutes

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How did Gary Stevenson go from being expelled for drug dealing, to one of the most successful traders in London? How does class and privilege play into the world of finance in the UK? What could men do differently to deal with their mental health at work? Rory and Alastair are joined by author of The Trading Game, Gary Stevenson, to discuss all this and more. The Rest Is Politics Plus: Join with a FREE TRIAL at therestispolitics.com, for exclusive bonus content including Rory and Alastair’s first ever miniseries The Real JD Vance, early access to Question Time episodes and live show tickets, ad free listening for both TRIP and Leading, our exclusive newsletter, discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, and our members’ chatroom on Discord. Visit HP.com/politics to find out more. For more Goalhanger Podcasts, head to www.goalhanger.com Instagram: @restispolitics Twitter: @restispolitics Email: [email protected] Social Producer: Harry Balden Video Editor: Josh Smith Assistant Producer: Alice Horrell Producer: Nicole Maslen Senior Producer: Dom Johnson Head of Content: Tom Whiter Exec Producers: Tony Pastor, Jack Davenport Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:38.4	Welcome to the rest of politics leading with me, Rory Stewart.
1:41.9	And me, Alastair Campbell, and we're with Gary Stevenson.
1:44.6	And there are several reasons we're with Gary Stevenson. The first is you would be pleased to know Gary that a lot of our listeners and viewers have said,
1:49.9	why don't you get Gary Stevenson on the podcast?
1:51.6	So here you are.
1:52.7	But also because he's got a very interesting live story, working class background,
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