The father of one of his victims stuck a gun in a Harris face and said, if you're not

disappeared in 72 hours, nobody will ever find the body.

They're always trying to make sure that their victims feel that sense of shame as if they

brought it on themselves as if they participated in it.

Hello and welcome to Best Case Worc case.

This is Jim Clemente Retired FBI profiler former New York City prosecutor and writer

producer on CBS's Criminal Mides.

With me today is...

Hi everybody, it's franceyhakes, former state and federal prosecutor and Jim's co-host,

Jim, we're remote again.

I just want to jump in because we were really, really in the middle of an incredible tale

of your bravery, a New York post story about you and I just want to jump right back in

for our listeners so that they can hear what you did, how you did it and what you're doing

today to continue to fight for yourself and for victims.

So just as a quick recap, we were back in Jim's past as a New York City prosecutor when

his brother Peter called him after seeing a movie and telling Jim that they should go

after a camp director at a camp they both attended when they were boys and Jim revealed

that that camp director had sexually victimized Jim and then 10 years later we fast forward

and Jim gets this call from Peter and he talks to the FBI and they ask him to wear a wire.

So Jim, wearing a wire, you're not a trained law enforcement officer.

What did you think when the FBI asked you to wear a wire?

Well, the first time they asked me, I said, hell no, I just won't sit down and talk to

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