#1438 The Gun Men
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🗓️ 13 April 2021
⏱️ 63 minutes
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Summary
Clay Jenkinson is joined this week by author Joseph Ellis for a lively discussion about popular American conspiracy theories and gun rights in America. In 1785, Thomas Jefferson wrote to his fifteen-year-old nephew, Peter Carr, about what he considered the best form of exercise, "I advise the gun. While this gives a moderate exercise to the body, it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind." Jefferson also advocated for some gun regulation, barring "pistoling" from the University of Virginia campus.
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| 0:00.0 | Good day, Thomas Jefferson hour podcast listeners. As always, we so appreciate you taking the time to listen and we also |
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| 0:24.3 | So I'll quit gushing over that and say this week's program is a discussion primarily between you Clay and |
| 0:33.0 | Joe Ellis talking about when we start talking about conspiracy theories in America's and then we move it into |
| 0:40.5 | gun rights in America and how those conspiracy theories sort of affect that you know some conspiracy theories are worth |
| 0:49.3 | Exploration but some David are so beyond |
| 0:54.5 | Any rational possibility that they strain our capacity to even |
| 1:00.8 | Understand where that can come from and how it can get proliferated by |
| 1:05.9 | Websites and by demagogues and so on and yet they not only exist, but they're proliferating in our time and so one of them of course |
| 1:15.6 | Goes back to the founding fathers and to the expertise of Joe Ellis |
| 1:19.4 | That's what did the founding fathers intend by the second amendment? |
| 1:23.0 | Are we reading it accurately? |
| 1:24.6 | Are we misreading it and how should we interpret it today when a high-tech weapon is not a |
| 1:30.6 | Muscat but a nine millimeter handgun |
| 1:33.7 | with extra magazines and so these questions need to be discussed by a free and rational people |
| 1:40.0 | Getting that discussion started is almost impossible because people |
| 1:44.7 | Flare up into verbal and sometimes actual violence if you even touch |
| 1:50.2 | Upon a notion like that |
| 1:52.0 | The conversation was hard on me this week because it wasn't real optimistic |
| 1:56.6 | But you and Joe both talked about the effect of the pandemic on the American population |
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