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Mormon Stories Podcast

1436: When A Gay Mormon Man Marries a Woman - Kyle Ashworth Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 June 2021

⏱️ 258 minutes

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Summary

Happy Utah Pride Week everyone! To celebrate Utah Pride week, I am sharing one of the most important interviews in the history of Mormon Stories Podcast. It is the story of Kyle Ashworth – a dear, brilliant, talented friend, and the host of Latter Gay Stories podcast.

This interview is important for at least 3 reasons:

  1. Kyle is a truly brilliant, caring human. That should be enough.
  2. It conveys super powerfully the myriad of ways in which the Mormon Church harms its LGBTQ members AND its straight members – including a deep dive into the serious problems of mixed-orientation marriages within Mormonism, along with the deep ineffectiveness and deceptiveness of organizations like North Star International.
  3. Finally, It is ultimately a story of “love winning out” as Kyle, his ex-wife, and her family fulfill their mantra, “One Family, Two homes.”

Today we will show Part 1 of the interview, and tomorrow we will share Part 2.

Please watch and enjoy, and please spread the word!!!

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John Delin. It is June 1st

0:06.8

2021 and

0:08.3

Today we are interviewing one of my favorite humans and I mean that we're interviewing someone super special and it's gonna be a very epic interview

0:15.8

His name is Kyle Ashworth. Hey Kyle welcome. Thank you John. Thanks for joining us. I'm excited to be here

0:21.9

Yeah, so Kyle Ashworth is amazing in so many ways. He is a real estate developer here in Utah

0:28.6

But I got to know Kyle on our trip to what Bill Reels like to see me in occasion. Is that right? Yeah, that was

0:35.1

Was a few years ago. Yeah, a few years ago

0:37.7

But Kyle is is known more broadly for being the host of ladder gay stories podcast for those of you don't know

0:45.2

Let me back up

0:45.9

So it's Pride week here in the United Pride month here in the United States. It's Pride week here in Utah and

0:52.3

Kyle is the host of ladder gay stories podcast

0:55.3

But Kyle is so much more than just a gay man. He's just a human who's extremely intelligent very insightful

1:02.9

very wise very diplomatic and

1:05.5

Just to kind of give a tiny bit of backstory

1:07.8

When I really wanted to help generate content around LGBT Q things within Mormonism

1:13.2

I started a podcast many many years ago called gay Mormon Stories. I convinced my cousin Daniel Parkinson

1:20.1

To kind of lead that up and he led it for a long time dozens and dozens of episodes got created

1:25.1

And then Daniel was ready to move on so gay Mormon stories kind of got parked and then after I met Kyle and got to know him

1:32.5

He wanted to kind of either revive it or do his own thing and what I did is I did my best to kind of hand over the reins of gay Mormon stories

1:40.1

he rebranded it and

1:42.4

relaunched it and

1:43.9

ladder gay stories has been one of one super influential

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