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#1435 Rebellion Revisited

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Society & Culture, History

4.61.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 March 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

This week Clay responds to listener mail, including many comments regarding a previous show about Shays' Rebellion, and what Jefferson's reaction would be to the insurrection that occurred on January 6, 2021.

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0:00.0

Good day, Thomas Jefferson, our podcast listers. And as always, thank you so much for listening.

0:07.6

Yes, this program was in response to the, really the avalanche of mail that we received after

0:12.8

our program on a little rebellion. Now and then Jefferson's response first to Shay's rebellion

0:19.2

in 1786, then the great French Revolution in 1789 and projecting forward to what he might have

0:27.1

wanted to say about the insurrection at the United States Capitol on January 6, 2021.

0:33.3

There was so much mail and it was all directed at that program, which was program number 1431

0:40.4

titled a little rebellion. It's probably still up at the website at JeffersonHour.com or on your

0:48.2

favorite podcast platform. If you go to JeffersonHour.com, you can look for it there and you can support

0:54.6

the show, which we so appreciate by clicking on the donate button. We need it and we so appreciate

1:01.2

it. And I really enjoyed this conversation this week, mostly because it was such great questions

1:08.2

from listeners. There's a bunch that we didn't get to. We could have spent another hour.

1:12.6

The thing about it is that Jefferson is unique among the founding fathers. So Shay's rebellion was

1:19.6

an agrarian rebellion in Western Massachusetts because of economic dislocations that came after

1:25.2

the Revolutionary War and the farmers of the West were not well enough represented in the state

1:30.0

legislature. It's Springfield and when they couldn't get any redress of their of their honest

1:34.8

and significant grievances, they up the ante and eventually shut down some farm auctions and

1:41.0

stop some foreclosures and tart and feathered a few people and so on. And this horrified the American

1:48.4

establishment that horrified Abigail and John Adams who thought that it was the coming of

1:54.0

pandemonium and the apocalypse and it horrified James Madison and Alexander Hamilton and George

2:00.4

Washington and the three of them sort of put together the constitutional convention of 1787,

2:05.6

which in large part was meant to create a strong enough central government to deal with

2:10.0

insurrections of that sort. And so of all the founding fathers, Jefferson is really the only one

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