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#143 Why liberal Catholicism is dying… - Joe Heschmeyer

Shameless Popery

Catholic Answers

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.9658 Ratings

🗓️ 4 February 2025

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Today Joe looks at the phenomenon of newer priests being more conservative and theologically orthodox, and progressive Catholicism’s failure to replicate itself…   Transcript:   Joe: Welcome back to Shameless Popery. I’m Joe Heschmeyer and if you follow politics at all, chances are you’ve heard people opining on this idea that we’re in the midst of a great political upheaval. And the question is a good one. Anytime you see the voting populace change its preferences and vote for a different party, we should be asking what that means for the future of the ...

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Welcome back to Seamus Popperi. I'm Joe Heschmire. And if you follow politics at all, chances are you've

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heard people opining on this idea that we're in the midst of a great political upheaval. And the question

0:09.1

is a good one. Anytime you see the voting populace change its preferences and vote for a different

0:14.8

party, we should be asking what that means for the future of the country, for voters' preferences,

0:20.7

and whether that change is going to last. And we've seen that in future of the country, for voters' preferences, and whether that change

0:21.5

is going to last.

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And we've seen that in several of the back-and-forth moves, from Bush to Obama, from Obama

0:27.7

to Trump, from Trump to Biden, and from Biden now back to Trump.

0:31.6

The question gets asked in one way, shape, or form.

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It is yet one more powerful signal that our politics are in the midst of a great upheaval,

0:41.0

as economic issues give way to cultural ones.

0:44.7

But today, I want to look at political and theological shifts, not within the American voting

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populace as a whole, but particularly within the Catholic Church.

0:52.0

Now, you may have observed this trend many of us have. Among the young Catholics who bothered to go to Mass, a growing number of them seem to prefer more reverent traditional liturgies, whether that's the traditional Latin Mass or Byzantine right liturgies, or whether it's just a reverent Nova Sorto. I don't know of good data showing this trend, but I think many of us have seen it with our eyes.

1:11.3

And that includes those who may not view it as a positive change. For instance, the Archdiocese

1:16.4

of New York has sent out a letter to its priests in 2023, telling them not to install

1:21.6

altar rails and historic churches, and lamenting that no one is sure where the impetus for

1:27.4

this is originating, but it seems to be picking up steam.

1:31.1

So whether you view that shift towards tradition as good or bad, that a shift is happening does seem kind of undeniable.

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And while we don't have good data for Catholics as a whole, we do have good polling data for Catholic priests.

1:49.0

And if you think about it, what our priests believe about theology, liturgy, and even politics is likely to have a major impact on what the church looks like for the decades to come.

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If you've got the impression that younger Catholic priests are more conservative than their older peers,

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