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Mormon Stories Podcast

1423: Giving up Major League Baseball for Mormonism - Marc Oslund Pt. 1

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.65.2K Ratings

🗓️ 26 April 2021

⏱️ 203 minutes

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Summary

Join us today as we kick off our three-part interview with former baseball player and LDS seminary teacher, Marc Oslund. Fascinating for so many reasons, I believe this is one of the most important Mormon Stories Podcast episodes I've ever released.

  • Marc was a heavily recruited high school baseball and football player in the L.A., California area.
  • He converted to the Mormon church as a teen.
  • He was drafted to the baseball Major Leagues three different times, and turned down those offers to go on an LDS mission and to BYU.
  • He was an all-American baseball player at BYU.
  • He served an LDS mission where he was often racked with guilt and shame - almost sent home for it.
  • When his baseball career ended (due to post-mission injuries), he became a Mormon CES seminary teacher, and served from around 2013 to 2019 - while the Mormon church was trying to become more open/honest about its history, and deal with public activists like Kate Kelly, myself, Sam Young, Jeremy Runnells, etc.
  • Even though he constantly had doubts/questions/concerns, his position as a seminary teacher caused major rifts in his marriage when his wife expressed occasional doubts, specifically about the Mormon temple ceremony.
  • Marc became a liberal/progressive/Givens Mormon while a seminary teacher - but was punished by CES for his progressive stances.
  • Marc ultimately lost his orthodox Mormon faith as a seminary teacher, and was pressured to quit his job.

In part 1 of this incredible story, Marc talks about his upbringing in LA, his conversion to Mormonism, and why he gave up multiple opportunities to play major-league baseball in order to pursue a career in the Church Education System.

This is a long one...probably deserves its own podcast...but it's really, really important. I hope you enjoy.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello everyone and welcome to another edition of Mormon Stories podcast. I'm your host John

0:03.6

Delin. It's April 9th, 2021, three days after the birth date of the Church of Jesus Christ

0:10.8

of Latter-day Saints or the day Jesus was born. Yeah. According to, you know, how I was

0:16.1

taught growing up. Anyway, just kidding. I'm John Delin and I am so excited for today's

0:21.5

episode. This is the type of interview I have wanted to do forever and I kind of have

0:29.0

my golden interview we who I get to interview about it. Today we are interviewing Mark

0:35.8

Ozzland. Mark, welcome to Mormon Stories podcast. John, I'm so excited to be here. So excited.

0:41.2

And I'll just give you guys the preview. Have you ever wondered what it would be like to

0:46.5

number one be in the Church education system as a seminary teacher? You know, and we've

0:53.4

had John McCleon, you know, talking about what it was like being a seminary institute

0:57.5

when he was married to Brooke and you know, that was like a really groundbreaking episode.

1:01.6

And of course, we had Grant Palmer on when he talked about being in the seminaries

1:04.5

to program. But, but like imagine being in the NCES, I know I should say we had Jeremy

1:12.4

Reynolds on talking about letter to a CES director. Well, we've never had is somebody

1:18.0

number one who was kind of like, you know, over the past 10 years in CES working as a CES

1:24.7

instructor, but it gets cooler. Like think about starting around 2013, kind of two years

1:32.8

before everything broke. Right as the essays are starting to appear, right as the Mormon

1:38.9

Internet is really getting going. And then, you know, boom, Kelly's ex communicated, I'm

1:44.6

ex communicated. And then dealing with the CES letter comes out. And then dealing with

1:50.8

all the aftermath between let's just say 2015 and, you know, 2019, 2020, when you lose

1:58.3

your faith as a seminary teacher in Utah. And then you've got to figure out what to

2:06.4

do, how to leave this job. Can you even get a new job? And then what, you know, when you

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