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hello and welcome to the new series of Oh What a Time, the history podcast that asks.

And I think we might have covered this ground before, but having just come back from holiday, it's fresh in my mind, how on earth did anyone go abroad pre-internet?

We have talked about it, but it's definitely worth going into again, absolutely.

I know we've talked about this, but I've basically talked to my mum about how she did it, right?

So we went on holiday to France, Sweden, the sort of Eurocamp with my sister, my brother-in-law, their kids.

And it was simple.

We booked it online.

We flew over.

I hired a car.

We drove to the thing using Google Maps.

And it just worked.

And it was fine, right?

Now, I was quite late going abroad abroad so a lot of my mates had

lots of kids I was at school with had gone abroad already they'd been on a plane so

me and my sister really hassled my parents this would be about 1991 we're like oh please

everyone some people have been on planes oh please go somewhere that is in England on holiday? Or Harlech. I mean, we did Harlech Castle. It was very local our holiday, right? I've got a vision of you, stood in Carmarthen, pointing at the sky and saying, what is that thing, Mum? That big bird, what is that? She goes, that's not for you, your elf. A big shiny metal bird. And I really hassled my mum. And I was just like, on my dad, I was like, it's not fair everyone else is doing it. Why can't we do it? It was so difficult. So basically my auntie, my mother's sister-in-law, had been to a good campsite in Brittany and had given her the page that was ripped out

with a brochure, sent it to my mother, and my mother then walked into a travel agent and said,

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