142: State Terrorism and Fascism, with MsEntropy
I Don't Speak German
IDSG
3.9 • 1.1K Ratings
🗓️ 3 March 2026
⏱️ 99 minutes
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Summary
Daniel and Jack are delighted to welcome back - after far too long an absence - the brilliant MsEntropy.
We pick our guest's brains in a conversation about the complexities of the concept of terrorism, its relationship to national states, citizenship, and fascism, with special relevance to America in the grip of Trump, MAGA, and their apparatchiks. Amanda touches on recent events including the ICE / Border Patrol incursions, the under-reported Prarieland trial of protestors, and most especially the horribly topical issue of the US-Israeli military attack upon Iran.
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https://thebarbedwire.com/2025/09/24/new-details-july-4-ice-attack-holes-feds-case/
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| 0:00.0 | Okay, and welcome back to IDSG, another very special episode for you because, well, firstly, hello Daniel. |
| 0:06.8 | Hello, Jack. |
| 0:08.1 | Hello, I always like to check that he's still there. |
| 0:10.3 | And as I was saying, very special episode for you because we have returning for the first time for several years, a very special guest. |
| 0:19.2 | Amanda Rogers. |
| 0:20.3 | Amanda, are you there too? |
| 0:37.3 | Yes, I am here. I am here. Yay. We're all here. And this entropy is probably how most of you know me. So you can call me that too if you want. Sure. Yeah. Now, yeah, the reason we haven't invited you back, Amanda, more regularly is just we just don't like women here. So, you know, it's just a thing. Yeah, that's right. I mean, how could you? |
| 0:38.9 | We shouldn't have the right to vote. |
| 0:40.0 | We're terrible, right? |
| 0:40.9 | I mean, how could you? We shouldn't have the right to vote. We're terrible, right? |
| 0:40.9 | I mean, I hear that regularly every day on social media. |
| 1:04.4 | Yeah. But, yes, Amanda, I think you and I have been chatting for the last three years about getting you back on the show as soon as possible. |
| 1:14.4 | And now it's happening. So, and, uh, ironically, we, you had, uh, you had, uh, suggested one topic and, uh, then something else came up something else came up that we have to talk about. |
| 1:23.1 | And, you know, that is, of course, the horrifying things that my government and other governments are doing in Iran right now. |
| 1:28.2 | Opening the discussion, one thing that would be really useful for us when we think about these things. |
| 1:32.9 | Ordinarily, I come on here to talk about non-state armed groups and fascism, |
| 1:42.5 | but what we're confronting in the U.S. and have been for quite some time is a state actor in the process of fascist power consolidation at home. |
| 1:45.8 | And there are different threads of these discussions that relate quite directly in ways that not enough people recognize when it comes to |
| 1:52.0 | engagements abroad, particularly with the Middle East. I mean, you might have heard imperial blowback |
| 1:56.9 | and the boomerang, all of these things when some people are discussing, say, Adam Woffon |
| 2:02.7 | divisions targeting of military recruits for their group, or CBP and ICE specifically looking |
| 2:11.6 | for veterans to take on. And these things are all connected to wars abroad in ways that I think |
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