142. Out of the Cage (with Amy Nordhues)

God Hears Her Podcast

Our Daily Bread Ministries

Society & Culture, Bible, Womensministry, Womensbiblestudy, Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Women, Female

4.9 • 689 Ratings

🗓️ 30 October 2023

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Guest Bio: Amy Nordhues is a survivor of both childhood sexual abuse and sexual abuse as an adult at the hands of a mental health professional. She is a passionate believer in Jesus and expert on the healing God provides. She has a BA in psychology with minors in sociology and criminology. In 2021, Amy published her story of abuse as an adult in the award-winning memoir Prayed Upon: Breaking Free from Therapist Abuse. Now a full-time advocate for victims of therapist/clergy abuse, she has a well-loved blog, speaks at conferences, and has more than 35 radio and podcast interviews on the subject. A married mother of three, she enjoys spending time with family, writing, reading, photography, and all things comedy.

Show Summary: We want to warn you that this episode includes the topics of suicide, sexual assault, and abuse. As an adult, we often think we’re incapable of falling into abusive situations or sexual grooming. However, roughly 50,000 people are working toward healing after finding themselves a victim to abusers within the church, doctor offices, therapy offices, jobs, and other places or situations where we often think we’re safe. Amy Nordhues is a survivor and an advocate for other survivors who have been through clergy and therapist abuse. Join Amy as she tells her story to hosts Elisa Morgan and Eryn Adkins during this conversation on God Hears Her.

Notes and Quotes:

“I refer to these traumas like an earthquake; there’s the initial quake and there are these smaller, mini quakes that happen for years.” –Amy Nordhues
“An ethical therapist will never burden the clients. They will be a blank slate for you when you walk in, and then you leave [your appointment] knowing that they can take care of themselves.” –Amy Nordhues
“Suddenly I found myself thinking, ‘God doesn’t make abusers’, and, ‘God doesn’t make evil’ . . . so what if God restored my abuser to the person that He made, would I be okay with that person going to heaven?” –Amy Nordhues
“Forgiveness is not that you like your abuser now or that you’re okay with what happened, but I feel like it’s telling God that this burden is too heavy for me and I need you to take it.” –Amy Nordhues
I had spent most of my life in darkness, bitterness, and anger. . . . I wasn’t going back there. And I like to tell victims, “Don’t let your abusers take that [hope] away from you; don’t let them take away your faith. Don’t let them put you back into that cage of anger and bitterness.” –Amy Nordhues

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Amy’s website: www.amynordhues.com
Amy’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Prayed-Upon-Breaking-Therapist-Abuse
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Amy’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/amynordhuesauthor/
Elisa’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/elisamorganauthor/
Eryn’s Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/eryneddy/

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0:00.0	If you are with an unethical therapist, you will notice your world will start to shrink.
0:05.6	You'll stop sharing things with your friends and outside people, and your world will slowly grow smaller.
0:11.7	And that's a huge warning sign. So I say keep that outside support.
0:26.0	You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for women where we explore the stunning truth that God hears you, he sees you, and he loves you because you are his.
0:31.1	Find out how these realities free you today on God Hears Her.
0:36.4	Welcome to God Here's Her.
0:38.6	I'm Elisa Morgan.
0:40.4	And I'm Erin Atkins.
0:43.8	Today, we are having a very important conversation.
0:50.7	Before we jump in, we want to warn you that we will be talking about suicide, sexual assault, and abuse.
0:52.9	This is a heavy conversation.
0:57.7	Our guest, Amy Nordhuis, was seeking therapy through a licensed psychologist and clergymen at her church when suddenly she found herself to be the victim of a felony.
1:05.1	We're so thankful for Amy's courage and her vulnerability to be able to share her story with us. Amy will help us see the
1:13.1	importance of an ethical therapist and the red flags that can happen in counseling. Her hope is to
1:18.7	raise awareness for safe ethical counseling. Join us as we ask Amy what her job and her passion
1:25.7	are now during this conversation on God hears her.
1:30.2	I advocate for adult victims of therapist and clergy abuse. There are many of us.
1:38.4	There's an organization called Tell that only deals with adult victims of therapist and clergy
1:44.0	abuse, and they tell me they
1:45.1	get 40 to 50,000 people to their website every year. Oh, wow. And these are adults who are being
1:51.3	taken advantage of and there's so much shame, even more shame for an adult. We're often blamed. It's
1:57.8	often labeled an affair. People don't understand abuse of power or they don't want to.
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