If you are with an unethical therapist, you will notice your world will start to shrink.

You'll stop sharing things with your friends and outside people, and your world will slowly grow smaller.

And that's a huge warning sign. So I say keep that outside support.

You're listening to God Hears Her, a podcast for women where we explore the stunning truth that God hears you, he sees you, and he loves you because you are his.

Find out how these realities free you today on God Hears Her.

Welcome to God Here's Her.

I'm Elisa Morgan.

And I'm Erin Atkins.

Today, we are having a very important conversation.

Before we jump in, we want to warn you that we will be talking about suicide, sexual assault, and abuse.

This is a heavy conversation.

Our guest, Amy Nordhuis, was seeking therapy through a licensed psychologist and clergymen at her church when suddenly she found herself to be the victim of a felony.

We're so thankful for Amy's courage and her vulnerability to be able to share her story with us. Amy will help us see the

importance of an ethical therapist and the red flags that can happen in counseling. Her hope is to

raise awareness for safe ethical counseling. Join us as we ask Amy what her job and her passion

are now during this conversation on God hears her.

I advocate for adult victims of therapist and clergy abuse. There are many of us.

There's an organization called Tell that only deals with adult victims of therapist and clergy

abuse, and they tell me they

get 40 to 50,000 people to their website every year. Oh, wow. And these are adults who are being

taken advantage of and there's so much shame, even more shame for an adult. We're often blamed. It's

often labeled an affair. People don't understand abuse of power or they don't want to.

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