Hello I'm Ian Stirling and I'm with one of McCain's farmers who grow their

petite hang on these are odd looking potatoes. That's kale Ian. You do know you

need potato to make chips right? Yes but we don't just grow potatoes we actually

rotate different crops to help keep the soil healthy. So we eat McCain chips I'm

helping do some good. Exactly yeah you're supporting the move to regenerative

farming. By the way I do know the difference between kale and potatoes. Of course

you do. McCain let's all check in. So money is brought to you by CNET the

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