So there are quite a few versions of Islam, but I think the dominant version of Islam is...

A version that is, to different degrees, quite political in many ways.

Mm-hmm.

But regardless of whatever it is, in the UK we could have chosen, like I always say this, if you allow every Emirati to move to London tomorrow, London is going to be one of the greatest cities globally.

It's going to be amazing for business. It's going to be amazing, you know, to start business, to, you know, have a family, whatever it is.

If you allow the same number of, you know, the equivalent number of people from Afghanistan or Pakistan,

you're going to have serious issue because of the difference in, you know, what kind of version

of Islam they practice. And no one wants to admit this. That's the challenge I have. No one wants to talk about this because that's racist.

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which is iran.com. So you were telling me. Yes, yes, the accent, yes. So I grew up in Egypt, and, you know, like most sort of middle-class families, you send your kids to the nicest school possible, basically.

So I went to a school where I was taught pretty much everything in English, American English.

So, you know, the accent is now quite weird because I've been living in the UK for 10 years.

And sometimes I get you sound Dutch. Sometimes I get you sound South African. Sometimes I get, you know. I think I hear each one as you say it. Yeah. I definitely hear the Dutch. It's quite weird. Yes, it's really quite weird. But, you know, married to an English woman, you know, from the Northeast. So, you know,

also quite, you know, very proud of the Northeast and all that stuff. So it's, uh, have you been sucked into the Northeast football? Uh, not really, no. I'd like to, actually. I'd like to, I'd like to a bit. Yeah, I haven't had the chance yet because we haven't been living in the North East for a long time.

Who's the nearest Premier League side? That's interesting, actually. I mean, we've got Leeds is not too far. Manchester is not too far even, you know. Leeds is good. I've been to Elam Road. Oh, right. Yes, yes. Leeds is good. Yeah, absolutely. Well, it's great to me, you Khaled. I normally have here five or six pieces of paper full of questions.

Yes. And today I don't. I have a blank sheet. Because we're touching on a subject which is widely debated and discussed at the moment in the UK. And at a time, I think the UK is really trying to understand what it is, what it wants to be.

And certainly in my sphere of podcast worlds, it can be something that drives clicks and drives kind of debate and anger. But like, I don't really

understand Islam myself particularly well. Like, I know enough. I know the basics, probably

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