So,

It's Marty here to introduce this episode of Tales from the Crypt

and the immense pleasure of sitting down with Charles Marone,

author of Strong Towns,

a bottom-up revolution to build American prosperity,

host of a podcast by the same name and founder of a nonprofit media company

by the same name, Strong Towns.

You freaks have probably heard me writing,

or you haven't heard me writing, you're probably been reading my writing about the book and listening to my words about the book

on the podcast over the course of the last couple months it's an incredible book and podcast go listen to

podcast if you haven't already again strong towns then go by the book strong towns as

well uh really really incredible book that it helps put things in perspective uh and puts our current

condition in perspective uh we've like i said on this podcast many times we have a lot of central planners

attempting to micromanage complex

systems and chuck does a great job of diving into how central planners have trying to micromanage

cities and towns particularly and how that's led to a lot of waste and a lot of infrastructure debt

which is a big problem we've got we've got a lot of big debt, which is a big problem.

We've got a lot of big problems to solve here.

So Chuck and I dive into that.

This is a very timely podcast considering the market conditions of our time

with everything taking the downturn.

We sort of get to the crux of a lot of the problems that we're experiencing right now.

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