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Welcome to the Family Discipleship Podcast.

We're here to equip and encourage Christian parents to lead their families.

And we are now posting every other Monday all year long.

This is Adam Griffin.

And today we have on the episode a very special guest, the King of Scotland, the Duke of Ohio, preacher, teacher, pastor, author, husband, father, and grandpa. Alistair, beg, everybody. Alistair, how are you this morning? I'm very well. Thank you and delighted to get a chance to sit and say hello to you. Great. We're so honored to have you with us this this morning. Now, Alistair, you've pastored for a long time. You've led a family. This morning we're going to talk a little bit about, you know, the centrality of Christ in the home and talking about Jesus specifically, but really in general, spiritual leadership. I would love to hear from you. Now, at the point you are in leading

your family, do you think about success in spiritual leadership in the home maybe differently than

you did when you're first having kids? And if you're maybe pastoring a family right now to say,

hey, this is what we're aiming for. How would you pastor a family to think about the spiritual

leadership of their home and what success would look like for them, what they're aiming at? Well, it's an interesting question

because I think success then and now it was far more limited in its horizons. You know,

success was making sure that they were all still alive. Survival.

Yeah, that they all had sufficient clothes to wear to go to school,

and that they brought home their report cards so that we could work with them.

You know, as I think about it, I think further back than that,

I think back to my own childhood and the context in which I was raised. And I suppose in the

journey of my life, I would like to have been able to emulate the pattern that was laid down by my

father, which was the reading of the Bible. It was often chaotic. Everyone's getting ready for school.

But he soldiered on. In fact, he soldiered on in a much better way than I did.

I think I excuse myself because of the nature of American life, the time he had to get up in the morning and so on.

But the objective was still the same, to let people know the love of God for her children, that

it's been expressed in Jesus, that his truth is made known to us in the Bible, and that in

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