Good Day Thomas Jefferson Hour Podcast listeners and thank you so much for listening

You always kind of think like when we're doing these shows clay I'm always like when we talk to Jefferson I always kind of like okay well I need to be the listeners advocate I need to be the one who anticipates what our listeners want to hear from Jefferson what questions to ask and it was great this week because I didn't have to because we had a listener on who talked to Jefferson

and I really like this format. I think we should do it again.

Well we will and this is of course let me introduce my friend Laura Gordon of Seattle, Washington.

An old dear friend of mine has been on a number of trips.

I could go into great detail about some of the more hilarious stories from our trips, but I will say that we've become dear friends and we meet at least once a year and sometimes more.

And I think she's taught me a lot because as Jefferson, I take Jefferson's point of view for the most part.

And so I'm very critical of Alexander Hamilton and I'm a little edgy about George Washington and I'm critical of Patrick Henry and I'm certainly dismissive as Jefferson of Aaron Burr, but Laura said, well, wait a minute, you know, you're the one who mentioned Nancy Eisenberg's book.

If you read it, he comes off pretty well.

And so I said, well, why don't you come on the Jefferson hour

and confront Mr. Jefferson for his prejudices.

And so this takes some time, you know, we need to get it on the schedule and

travels and the pandemic and so on.

But Laura, you prepared beautifully, and you ask great questions, and I think you're right.

I mean that any serious look at Burr redeems him to a very considerable extent against the charge not only by the Jeffersonians that he tried

to steal the election of 1800 and that he committed treason in the West, but against the

Hamiltonians who believed he murdered our guy.

That's not the way this story turns out if you read even a mildly sympathetic biography of

Burr is it?

You're correct and thank you for having me on and it was a great deal of fun. I think

Burr may have been redeemed a little bit. Well the Burrites everywhere will feel happier in their treasonous activities.

It's always a great pleasure.

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