This is Jonathan Peugeot thing and then the symbolic world thing.

And I think that because of that, it would be a good idea to be a little more deliberate about

kind of ways of collaborating and ways of working together and building on what each other and what

we're doing so that we're actually building something for that'll last that'll last or that will

produce fruit let's say so I think that that's something that I'm looking forward to next year as

when I get settled into my house and hopefully things are going to calm down and I'll have more

time and energy to get involved in that kind of stuff like I've visited your your bridge is a

meaning thing a few times.

And I kind of dropped in.

I don't even know how Discord worked.

So I always like I drop in on conversations and people and then I don't even have my mic

on or something.

Anyway, so we'll figure it out.

No, I think that would be a good idea.

I don't know exactly how.

The Bridges of Meaning thing, so it was members of my local meetup that started that, and it has continued to evolve, and it continues to evolve.

It's, you know, one of the things that I struggle with is how we can use these platforms for good,

but not be overly innocent or naive about the distortions that they bring into patterns of relationships.

Yeah.

And, you know, we, you know, before I started recording, we were talking about, you know,

I'm glad, I'm glad I'm doing this in my 50s because if I had done something like this in

my 20s and 30s, I'm really concerned about how

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