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Hello and welcome everybody today's stream podcast today's episode is sponsored by honey and express VPN today

I am joined by Mick West video game developer turned

skeptical scientist is that right right?

Yes, and some scientists and debunker debunker would like to use author of

Escaping the rabbit hole how to debunk conspiracy theories using facts logic and

Respect which is available on Amazon and host of tales from the rabbit hole podcast

Thank you very much for being here. Thank you for having me. I understand you flew here from Sacramento

So were you able to confirm that the earth is flat on that airplane?

It did look flat out of my window, but I wouldn't have looked and measured it. You measured it.

No, I have actually done that then I've taken a little

little spirit level out

and you can use it to look out your airplane window and measure the the dip of the horizon.

It's that easy. It's a little fiddly because the horizon is all hazy when you're up in this guy

But you can actually tell that the earth is a sphere from a plane.

That's a lot easier than what these guys went through. You saw the flat earth documentary on

Netflix. I'm assuming. Those guys went through a lot more effort than just hopping on a plane.

Yeah, well, they think that there's reasons why your plane is a plane view is not correct

Like some of them think that the plane windows because they're curved they make the earth

Okay, they've got explanation for every day. You know it's fine excuses, but there's so many easy ways you can you can check

Wasn't that I always find it so fine and that somehow the excuses are more believable to them than the actual

Oh, yeah, they'll jump through any any they'll do all the mental gymnastics in the world

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