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We're taking a bit of a back seat this week and letting our guests do most of the talking.

We're very lucky to have on the show the historian and journalist Katya Jaya. Katiya is the author of two outstanding books on German history, Blood and Iron about the German Empire from 1871 to 1918, and beyond the wall, the history of East Germany, where she was born. Katiya will be enlightening us on a subject that's become even more important

in the light of the revelation that Russian intelligence penetrated a high-level German military

discussion on sending Taurus long-range cruise missiles to Ukraine. And that subject is,

what on earth is Germany up to and will it be a reliable partner as the conflict develops?

But before that, we're going to talk about an alarming bit of news that broke midweek.

That was that a Russian missile landed just 500 metres from President Zelensky

while he was meeting the Greek Prime Minister Kiriarkos-Mizokakis in the port city of Odessa.

They were unharmed that the strike did kill five people.

Russia says the missile was aimed at a hangar in the port,

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