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my husband 69 he's retired and he i guess retirement and you know running around and and uh you know

living the life which he should after you, 40 years in the oil field,

he got into gambling.

And so he'd, you know, run up to Oklahoma and do some gambling and all this.

How bad is it?

Right.

So last August, I really got involved with the Ramsey stuff.

And I thought, wow, this is pretty impressive.

And so I got his book, you know, the financial freedom.

And then I also got Dr. Deloni's book of the non-anx life because he was stressed about, you know,

retired and all that and kind of running around, didn't really know what to do after being such a workaholic. And so since then,

he's gotten help for the gambling. He's really, he stopped. I mean, it's like it was a phase,

but that phase left us about $150,000 in debt. What kind of debt? Credit cards?

Well, credit cards, yes. Good. God almighty. And I know. And he was,

you know, really embarrassed. And how I found out about this, I mean, I have a few credit cards,

and I'll use them, you know, go to work, get gas, you know, you know, whatever, pay them off, whatever.

And so he's always had his own credit cards, business credit cards and so forth.

And I never, and I know it sounds irresponsible because he's so responsible, never paid, never paid attention and never been a problem before, you know, this. So I got the

financial freedom book and I was going through everything and I was like, okay, let's lay everything

out. And he very shamefacedly produced these bills.

Did your heart stop, Liz?

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