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The Option Alpha Podcast

14: Why "Stop-Loss" Orders Could Actually Be Creating More Losing Trades

The Option Alpha Podcast

Kirk Du Plessis

Investing, Trading, Stock Market, Business, Options Trading, Education, Finance

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 January 2015

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

In this session of The Option Alpha Podcast I'll explain why most traders think stop-loss orders help manage risk and protect them when in fact they end up creating more losing trades. Using the "Lazy Trader" program I'll show you with concrete numbers on live trades how a stop-loss order would create 50% more losing trades than if you did nothing at all and let the trade stay a loser all the way through expiration. You probably think I'm absolutely crazy for saying this, but listen in and see what the facts say about option probabilities.

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0:00.0

You're listening to the Option Alpha Podcast from Option Alpha.com where we show you how to

0:06.2

make smarter trades learn how the stock market really works and generate consistent

0:10.8

monthly income. Now your host and head trader at

0:15.0

option alpha.com Kirk depluses.

0:18.0

Hey everyone this is Kirk here again from option alpha.com

0:22.0

working every week to make this the most popular investing

0:25.6

podcast offered in iTunes because it's based on one thing and one thing only and that's

0:31.2

helping you make smarter trades. So thanks so much for

0:34.4

tuning in today. We've got a ridiculous show for you guys today. I seriously

0:39.0

believe that if you listen through the end of this podcast today,

0:43.3

you will completely understand why a lot of people

0:47.5

in this business lose money.

0:49.0

And they do it under the auspice of assuming that they're kind of managing their risk and preventing losses.

0:56.3

But this whole concept of stop loss is the worst thing that I've ever heard in my entire life. And I hate that people use it and I'm here to kill

1:06.4

this idea of using stop losses because I don't call them stop losses. I call them money losses because you lose money every time that you use a stop loss

1:15.9

and I'm going to show you here tonight with empirical evidence and hard statistics

1:21.2

and numbers why people lose money when they use stop losses

1:26.5

and it creates more losing trades in their account and they don't even know it.

1:30.8

And so I'm going to go through a bunch of those examples today so that you guys know going

1:35.1

forward a new way of trading and how you can plan your exit in the future.

1:41.4

So let's talk about the agenda for today's podcast. So the first thing

1:45.2

that we're going to talk about is how stop losses work with stocks and options. So if you've

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