meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
The Symbolic World

14- Intersectionality Individuality And The Hero - With Jordan Peterson

The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture

4.8936 Ratings

🗓️ 30 August 2018

⏱️ 66 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

This is a discussion I had with Jordan Peterson on Nov. 14, 2017 in which he called me in the morning and we began looking at several ideas together. ------------------------------- Original video on Jordan Peterson's channel: https://youtu.be/E5F4oOlAK8w Original description: I woke up at about five thirty this morning to a flood of ideas dealing with the emergence of what has been called "intersectionality" in the postmodern/identity politics world. Intersectionality is a movement based on the observation that the standard identity groups (race and gender, for example) don't sufficiently capture the variability in oppression that characterizes those who fit into both categories simultaneously (say, black woman). I realized that the intersection of six or more categories of variation (depending on the degree of differentiation) would produce "groups" of only one individual. In that manner, the idea of the individual is necessarily making its comeback in the ideologies of collectivism that characterize so much modern thinking. It's an inversion, an indication of our upside down world. Many more ideas came along with that one, some associated with the idea of categorization and the ideal (in a religious and symbolic sense). I decided to contact Jonathan Pageau, who is the embodied intersection of French Canadian, artist, orthodox icon carver, male, expert on postmodernism, and bearded, as I couldn't easily think of anyone else to talk to about such things. I didn't edit it at all.... ------------------------------- My links: patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pageauvideos paypal: https://www.paypal.me/JonathanPageau website: http://www.pageaucarvings.com facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jonathanpageau twitter: https://twitter.com/pageaujonathan

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

I'd like to welcome you to the 14th episode of the Symbolic World podcast.

0:05.7

In this episode, I am going to play for you a discussion, which was originally posted on

0:12.2

Jordan Peterson's YouTube channel called Intersectionality, Individuality, and the Hero.

0:19.5

The talk actually starts in mid-sentence because Jordan called me in the

0:25.1

morning and he had all these crazy ideas he wanted to work through and so he just kind of pressed

0:33.4

record in the midst of the discussion. So you get all the rawness of a full-on discussion

0:38.6

that we had and so we go through a lot of stuff and yeah I hope you can enjoy so This is Jonathan Peugeot. Welcome to the symbolic world.

1:05.9

So people are taking it seriously that's good it's good i say that

1:18.2

but you're the one who has to deal with the the pain and the pressure so yeah well i'm in a

1:23.0

permanent state of being freaked out so and i woke up this morning with all these ideas that I wanted to

1:31.4

talk to you about all right okay so let me pull up the emails that I sent you yeah let me

1:37.8

let me start with that yeah okay so one of the things, did you want to talk first, just to get our ideas straight?

1:51.5

Or maybe I can, I also want to comment on some of the things you wrote.

1:54.9

Go ahead.

1:56.3

One of the things, one of the difficulties.

1:58.6

I'm recording this, by the way.

2:00.2

Oh, you you recording this already

2:01.2

yeah well i can always edit it after all right okay um well then maybe you should then maybe

2:07.1

you should speak first because that way when i talk about the the the the kind of the questions

2:12.3

that i have uh especially in regards to the cross the cross is really complicated it's a complicated

2:17.4

it's like it's it's it's, it's meant to be, to be a mystery.

2:22.4

And so the way it's presented to us, it, it kind of breaks all the categories in a way.

...

Please login to see the full transcript.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Jonathan Pageau, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Jonathan Pageau and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2026.